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Injecting glue into dowel holes

7/10/19       
Oggie Member

Just starting with dowel construction for cabinet cases and looking for entry level solution for injecting glue into dowel holes.

Searching through older post I've found that Lamello used to make some manual glue dispenser called "Lamello Dosicol 177007", but can't find it any more, only some similar with nozzles for biscuits.

Also, pressurized pots like Lamello LK-3 are not out of range (would like to stay under $1K), but I've never used one of those and can't figure out from scarce Youtube videos if it's any good for that specific purpose (is there some preset quantity of glue that will be injected with each squeeze of the handle or the flow is continuous and you just develop a feel for the right amount of squeezing time)...

If we leave dedicated dowel and glue inserter machines out of scope for now - what other methods/gadgets/systems you use to insert glue into dowel holes?

Thank you

7/10/19       #2: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
KCR

Go to this link: https://www.csaw.com/lamello/glue-systems/
I have been using it for about 25 years. It was developed by a company called Schnieberger (spelling ?) and later purchased by Lamello. Exclusively sold through Colonial Saw. I love this system and use a variety of tip designs including a custom tip I use for glueing 1/4" x 1 x 1 1/2" loose tennons for assembling faceframes, edgeglueing solid panel stock, broad surface laminating, etc. To be sure, it is pricey but for all the options it offers, it really speeds up all of the glueing process for a one man shop!

7/10/19       #3: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Oggie Member

So, that would be that Lamello LK-3/5/10 I mentioned above... Can be bought at Home Depot or Amazon too.
It looks well suited for a variety of gluing applications but I am interested in one and only one - inserting glue into dowel holes.
Do you think it's good for that? Can you set a precise amount of glue that will be delivered into the hole with each push on a gun's lever?

7/10/19       #4: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Alan F. Member

Little more expensive but what we use

https://www.tritec.com/copy-of-semi-automatic-glue-and-dow

7/10/19       #5: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
KCR

I had no idea you could purchase this equipment through Home Depot!
To your question, yes. It's GREAT for that!They have a special device LK 100 or LK110 that dispenses a regulated amount of glue for a set length of time (fractions of a second or two). Be sure to read through the website or call them to get precise info on your needs.

7/10/19       #6: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Oggie Member

So, I've made a few phone calls and got some pricing. LK-3 basic system has a "manual gun" - the glue flows as long as you keep the handle pressed. But it has flow adjustment so you can reduce the flow in order to increase resolution on your timing. I suppose one could develop a feel for right duration of squeeze relatively quickly.
The gun that injects the measured amount of glue with each stroke ("One-Shot" model) unfortunately costs alone as much as twice than the basic system complete, so that one is out of scope for now.

Also, the glue that will work with this system is regular viscosity (Titebond) wood glue and not low(er) viscosity dowel glues used with specialized dowel and glue inserter machines. Don't know why, but that's what I've been told.

7/10/19       #7: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
chris barnard

check out this.

Rangate - Pizzi glue system

7/10/19       #8: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Oggie Member

Looks very similar to Lamello.

As a matter of fact, the more I look into how these are made the more I'm closer to conclusion that a $100 pressure paint tank from Harbor Freight and a $10 air blow gun with a few feet of hose would work the same, except for the nozzles, but they are not included in those more expensive systems either.

7/10/19       #9: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Bruce H

I have a Schneeberger same as KCR, more than thirty years. It's easy to dispense the right amount of glue into a dowel hole using a manual gun. I have dowel tips for 5mm, 8mm, 10mm, 1/2" and also have tips for everything else. It's the "cats meow" when it comes to inserting glue into dowel holes or gluing anything else. I put a gallon bottle of glue in the tank and leave it until it's empty, no cleaning. I do keep the gun in a pail of water.

7/10/19       #10: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
KCR

If you decide to go with the Lamello system you will also want to get a cleaning adapter for a slop sink. It screws on to the end of the faucet and allows you to attach the various nozels from the gun and rinse the glue out of them before storing them. I have always had my tips in a bucket of water and it caused the tips to deteriorate. Wouldn't do that again.

7/12/19       #11: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Alan F. Member

this has the tank and nozzle; seems like a good price

http://machinerymax.com/Event/LotDetails/16385713/Pizzi-Glue-Table

7/13/19       #12: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Ken Member

Here's another supplier of gluing equipment. https://vansco.com/catalog/

7/15/19       #13: Injecting glue into dowel holes ...
Dan Dempsey Member

Website: CSaw.com

Hi everyone, lots of good feedback here, just wanted to chime in as well on behalf of the crew here at Lamello USA. We have lots of guys using our LK One Shot systems for dowel assembly throughout the US. In fact, some machine manufacturing companies sell the LK systems in tandem with their case clamps.

Most shops that are using the system for dowels will opt to go with the One Shot system- they want to be able to ensure the exact same amount of glue is being inserted each time they hit the trigger. That being said, these are shops where they don't necessarily have their most skilled employee inserting glue for the dowels, so they need to have that level of control. Oggie is correct in thinking that you'll develop a "touch" for how long you need to hold down the trigger to get the right amount of glue. As a few of you have pointed out, these systems are well built machines and with some basic maintenance, will last for years.

If you were to decide later on that the pneumatic One Shot was a better fit for your application, you can always buy the pneumatic set-up at a later time. Hope this helps!

 

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